Date: 20 March 2002

Place: NIST, Room 152

Time: 9:00AM to 4:00PM

Dan opened the meeting at 9:15am.

a) Approval of the Agenda

The agenda was amended to include a discussion of the 11179-3 electronic editing meeting in section 6.

b) Membership, attendance list, and address list

An attendance list was distributed, and those present are accounted for in the table below.

c) Review of minutes of previous meeting

The minutes from the previous meeting were deleted from the web site due to the hacker attack. Please review the minutes and send comments to Dan.

 Minutes from December 2001 meeting

 Attendees * indicates participation by teleconference

a) Report on NCITS/L8 Task Group for Technical Development meetings (J. Newton)

Judy reported on the previous 3 meetings of the Task Group. Aside from regular discussions on each of the open projects, Gail Wright reported on the needs of Oracle Corps 11179 implementation during the Feb meeting. XML transfer capability is a major issue.

b) Report on JTC1/SC32/WG2 matters (L. Fitzwater)

Larry reported ballots are open for 11179-4, 11179-5, and 20943-3. The editing meeting for 11179-3 continues. It is expected to close at the WG2 meeting in Seoul, Korea scheduled for 1 - 10 May. An Open Forum is scheduled for 29 - 30 April. A joint WG2/WG3 meeting is scheduled for 1 May. The WG2 comments template should be used for comments for any document.

c) Report on JTC1/SC32 matters (B. Bargmeyer)

Doug reported that the ballots are out now. He wants tighter rules for running electronic editing meetings. The current electronic editing meeting for 11179-3 was not formally called, nor was an end date specified. The SC32 meeting in Seoul, Korea is scheduled for 6 - 10 May.

d) Report on NCITS/L8 matters (D. Gillman)

 Dan reported that everyone should have received and paid their dues to INCITS for the current year.

a) TC204 and ITS America (A. Schoka & B. Parker)

Andy and Burt reported. ITS community includes many public and private organizations promoting ITS in ITS America. ITS America is the secretariat for the US TAG to TC 204. Five SDOs participate in the US TAG. SAE is the international secretariat.

The ITS registry has 2700 data concepts. Read access is open to anyone who registers. Burt is the registrar for the registry. The registry includes message sets, which are expressed in ASN.1 syntax. ISO 14817 (from TC 204) is out for DIS ballot. The ballot closes on 6 May.

b) OMG (B. Bargmeyer)

No report.

c) W3C (B. Bargmeyer)

The semantic web, including the DAML/OIL and web ontology language efforts, is an important development for us to watch. Registering the semantics of XML elements in (11179) registries is a service we need to provide.

d) TC 211 and L1 (B. Bargmeyer)

Dan reported that L1 and TC 211 are moving forward with the ISO 19100 series of GIS standards. Henry Tom resigned as chair of L1. Norm Anderson is acting chair at this time. Doug reported that NCITS 353 is a newly issued L1 standard that uses code sets as a normative part of the standard. Some of these are out of date, such as the Standard Industrial Classification (SIC)! This needs to be checked and a comment sent to INCITS if verified.

e) TC 37 (D. Mann)

Doug reported that TC 37 issued a NWI proposal on 18 March that we need to evaluate. The title is Basic Principles of Multilingual Product Classification for E-Commerce.

f) TC 215 (D. Mann)

No report.

a) Status of ISO/IEC 11179 – revision

i) Part 1 – Framework (D. Gillman)

First CD version to come out by the end of April.

ii) Part 2 – Classification (J. Carpenter)

First CD to be ready in May.

iii) Part 3 – Metamodel (L. Fitzwater)

Electronic editing meeting is still open. It is supposed to close at Seoul meeting. No official end date is agreed upon.

iv) Part 4 – Definitions (B. Bargmeyer)

First CD ballot is out now and closes 12 April. Vote and comments are due.

v) Part 5 – Naming and Identification (J. Newton)

First CD ballot is out now and closes 4 April. Vote and comments are due. No editing meeting is scheduled for Seoul.

vi) Part 6 – Registration (L. Fitzwater)

Larry has taken over editorship of Part 6. First CD version to come out in July.

b) Status of ISO/IEC TR 20943

i) Part 1 – Data Elements (J. Newton)

DTR ballot issuance is waiting for the closing of the editing meeting for 11179-3. 20943-1 must not be inconsistent with 11179-3.

ii) Part 2 – XML (B. Bargmeyer)

Initial work is begun. Farance, Oracle, and others are working on this. No time schedule determined yet.

iii) Part 3 – Value Domains (D. Gillman)

First PDTR ballot is out now and closes 12 April. Vote and comments are due.

c) Status of NCITS 1058-D and 1059-D

The NWI proposal for combining these projects in WG2 under Common Logic is delayed until the group can get support from 5 countries. The editor, Michael Gruninger, has found this support. The NWI should be moved forward in Seoul.

i) Knowledge Interchange Format (M. Gruninger)

ii) Conceptual Graphs (J. Sowa)

d) Status of ISO/IEC 11404 – Language Independent Datatypes (F.Farance)

Next draft due for SC22/WG11 meeting in April. First CD ballot due in July.

e) Status of ISO/IEC 20944 – Metadata Access Service (F.Farance)

Farance will supply justification for project split to Doug Mann. Several parts are planned or in progress and others are possible.

a) IR Report (F. Farance)

 The 11179 family of standards is seen as the basis for registry based standards. New EDR standards have been issued and need to be discussed. These could have regulatory implications for the US.

a) US TAG: INCITS/L8
SC: 32 N 741
Date Due to TAG Administrator: 04/03/02
Subject: Request for List of Delegates to the JTC 1/SC 32 Plenary Meeting, Monday, 2002-05-06 and Friday, 2002-05-10 [Remember to coordinate the Head of Delegation position]
SC/JTC 1 Due Date: 04/05/02

Burt moved and Judy seconded a motion to make Bruce the Head of Delegation for WG2 at Seoul. Frank F. will also go as a delegate. The vote was by unanimous consent.

b) Electronic Editing Meeting for ISO/IEC 11179-3

US positions were determined for 3 issues brought about by the continued electronic editing meeting:

i) The US is against the proposed name change for ISO/IEC 11179 agreed in the Part 3 editing meeting. Doug reassured everyone that the name of the family of standards cannot be changed in the editing meeting of one of the parts. This is an SC32 issue. The US TAG to SC32 will be asked to vote against this proposed name change.

ii) The US wants clear procedures for any future electronic editing meetings. Begin and end dates, operating procedures, and scope of work (e.g., accepting new editing proposals) need to be determined in advance. Again, the US TAG to SC32 will be asked to support this position in discussions at the SC32 meeting.

iii) Larry moved and Bruce seconded the motion that the electronic editing meeting be closed immediately, the editor's 2^nd FDIS draft is satisfactory, and this draft be sent for FDIS ballot. If the FDIS ballot fails at the ITTF, then a 2^nd FCD ballot is necessary. The chair is instructed to let WG2 know this position as soon as possible. The vote was recorded as 7 in favor, 2 against, no abstain out of 13 possible. The motion passed. Frank Farance feels this is a faulty technique for progression of the 11179-3 document. He feels there are too many technical issues in the document for FDIS at this time. Andy Schoka also disagreed with the motion. He feels that if the editing process is so broken, the document should not be progressed.

Doug moved and Judy seconded the motion to adjourn the meeting at 12:15pm. The motion passed by unanimous consent.